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Old 11-12-2009, 02:29 AM
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How are you arod? That was an interesting article. China is definitely running the show with global monetary policy. A "V" shaped recovery in the U.S. seems highly unlikely to me but who knows. The Fed is petal to the metal and the retailers defying all expectations.

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G'day qed,

Thanks for the chart. Would you be able to do another one now and see where the gbp/aud is now headed?

Fingers crossed for a 1.73!

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Another rate hike in December! boo-yah!

For those trading the Aud/us thought ya might like this one.



Another rate rise 'a step closer' - Yahoo!7 Finance News

hmmmm.....currently enjoying a "White Rabbit" - which is a Dark Ale. Healesville beer - yum!

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Old 11-12-2009, 07:12 AM
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On the GBP/AUD - I am quietly hoping the figures for the aussie are all positive re employment this week, while I am hoping the figures for the pound come out miserable......(momentarily so I can pick up my shorts way down at 1.75...LOL

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My 1.7709 target was hit. Took half off, and letting the rest ride.
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Old 11-12-2009, 07:14 AM
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It is widely rumored that China is about to revalue their currency. Isn't that a defacto tightening of monetary policy? Could this dampen commodity demand? How might it affect the AUDUSD?
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G'day qed,

Thanks for the chart. Would you be able to do another one now and see where the gbp/aud is now headed?

Fingers crossed for a 1.73!

Cheers

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Well, I don't really have any insight on that, only opinion. The trade that I posted comes from John Carter's book "Mastering the Trade". I think he claims that a box trade has a high probability of working. And I believe he has a target price that is the height of the box and a stop that is also the height of the box. So the profit/loss is 1 to 1. This trade happened to work.
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Well, I don't really have any insight on that, only opinion. The trade that I posted comes from John Carter's book "Mastering the Trade". I think he claims that a box trade has a high probability of working. And I believe he has a target price that is the height of the box and a stop that is also the height of the box. So the profit/loss is 1 to 1. This trade happened to work.
qed, hey...good to see you posting here. Hey, could you post an example of one of those box trades? That would be interesting....even if it's not related to AUD or NZD.
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I agree with Sean, I am long on AUDUSD as well...

I entered into this position last night at 0.9233

RSI has reached oversold levels, weekly, daily, hourly charts are all trending upwards, S2 pivot point touched

Fundamentals are strong as discussed in previous posts

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qed, hey...good to see you posting here. Hey, could you post an example of one of those box trades? That would be interesting....even if it's not related to AUD or NZD.
Here is a 15 minute chart of the EURUSD. You wait for two tests of your upper and lower trend lines. Once you have those you lablel the four points and you have your box. Then you wait for a retrace into the box from the last trend line test of at least 25%. After you have your retrace you place buy and sell stops one tick above and below the box. Once you have a fill your price target is the width of the box and you leave your other stop order as a stop loss. In this case it breaks out of the bottom of the box and the profit target is hit. The risk reward is one to one and according to Carter this price pattern has a high probability of success.

The shadows don't appear very well on this chart. For whatever reason my charts always show up as atachments so they lack clarity.
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Here is a 15 minute chart of the EURUSD. You wait for two tests of your upper and lower trend lines. Once you have those you lablel the four points and you have your box. Then you wait for a retrace into the box from the last trend line test of at least 25%. After you have your retrace you place buy and sell stops one tick above and below the box. Once you have a fill your price target is the width of the box and you leave your other stop order as a stop loss. In this case it breaks out of the bottom of the box and the profit target is hit. The risk reward is one to one and according to Carter this price pattern has a high probability of success.

The shadows don't appear very well on this chart. For whatever reason my charts always show up as atachments so they lack clarity.
So are they looking to trade the range inside of the box...or trying to define a breakout point outside of the box?
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So are they looking to trade the range inside of the box...or trying to define a breakout point outside of the box?
Sorry Sean, I guess I may not have been clear enough. They are strictly buying or selling a break out either up or down outside of the box. No entries are made inside the box. Here is another trade unfolding in the last hour of today's trading. It is in the GBPAUD 60 minute chart. Will probably have to wait until Monday to see how this trade works out.
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Sorry Sean, I guess I may not have been clear enough. They are strictly buying or selling a break out either up or down outside of the box. No entries are made inside the box. Here is another trade unfolding in the last hour of today's trading. It is in the GBPAUD 60 minute chart. Will probably have to wait until Monday to see how this trade works out.
I see. Great stuff. Who's book did you say it was in?
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Australia actually has stronger fundamentals...higher yields...a positive GDP, low unemployment....more positive comments from their central bank vs. that of New Zealand, etc.
Shame that AUD/NZD trade didn't go all the way Sean. 4 hour cross shows it shorting now.....boo. Made some pips from 1.2500 though. Daily weekly says it can still go up quite a way. Back to 1.2500 first.

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I see. Great stuff. Who's book did you say it was in?
It was in John Carter's book "Mastering the Trade". I have made a few of these trades but have never recorded the results and have no idea what the probabilities are. Stupid for not tracking them. You can use this method on many time frames though. And it can be surprising how many of these patterns turn up if you get used to watching in multiple time frames.

Of course there are some nuances to his box trade which are detailed in his book.

One of the originators of the "Box Trade" was the famed ballet dancer Nicholas Darvas, author of the book "How I made $2,000,000 in the Stock Market".

"My only sound reason for buying a stock is that it is rising in price. If that is happening, no other reason is required. If that is not happening, no other reason is worth considering."
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Shame that AUD/NZD trade didn't go all the way Sean. 4 hour cross shows it shorting now.....boo. Made some pips from 1.2500 though. Daily weekly says it can still go up quite a way. Back to 1.2500 first.
Tigger, so far the AUD/NZD uptrend remains intact. I'm still long so far.

See the chart below.
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