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Old 11-01-2009, 05:23 PM
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Jeremy,

I am thinking about registering for an FSS Account but I have a couple questions regarding how the trades function.
  1. I understand that when I choose a system, the trades that are created "mirror" the trades on some backend system (Tradency). Is someone manually entering the entry/exit trades on the Tradency end or are the trades automatically executed by technical data analysis?
  2. I have had experience with trading robots in the past. When I compared the results from my robotic trading with other users who used the exact same robots there were always discrepencies. There were instances where my account had entered a trade and another individual using the same robot had not entered those trades, and vice versa. My question is, does EVERYONE using the same FSS system enter into the exact same trades at the same entry price or are there discrepencies?

Any assitance is appreciated, thanks Jeremy.
Hello Nbhatt...

Let's assume I am a signal provider. When I wish to enter a trade, I will send my details to Tradency, who will automatically (through computer automation) send the signals out to all subscribers.

It is possible that end users will experience slightly different results. This should be fairly minimal due to possible liquidity or slippage issues with the market at the moment the trade is executed.

However, everyone who is subscribed to the same provider at the same time should receive the same signals (with slightly different fills). Those who did not receive the signals may not have been subscribed, or possibly they don't have enough margin in the account to cover.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.

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Old 11-03-2009, 02:13 PM
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Hi Strongtower. This request has come up before. There are pros and cons to such a feature. Gavin addressed a similar request several months ago. Here is a link to his post.
Thanks for the links etc, but the concern still remains:
It would be great if the number of positions could be limited on some of the systems, especially if all of the positions are entered/exited simultaneously, like with MetaDiffusion III EURCAD. If I have to trade a 100K lot from the get go, this system has too high a loss potential for my account size. If I could choose the number of lots, it would make more sense. Also, it would be good to know in the system description, if a system enters all lots simultaneously, like the one above, or if it 'averages in' with additional positions. Last, taking into consideration the amount of offered systems and the resulting number of combinations, 30 days will never be enough to evaluate the feasibility of FSS.
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System performance out of order

This is not a FAQ, usually. But it has to be, now.

This week, in the FSS platform at the Performance section, it's not possible to select the system(s) you want to analyse. I hope this is being addressed.

It's an important feature - when will that be working normally, again?
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This is not a FAQ, usually. But it has to be, now.

This week, in the FSS platform at the Performance section, it's not possible to select the system(s) you want to analyse. I hope this is being addressed.

It's an important feature - when will that be working normally, again?
I just checked it and see that its there. When you initially open the PERFORMANCE tab, press the OPEN MORE OPTIONS button right below the Max DD drop down box.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.

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Old 11-03-2009, 08:11 PM
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Thanks for the links etc, but the concern still remains:
It would be great if the number of positions could be limited on some of the systems, especially if all of the positions are entered/exited simultaneously, like with MetaDiffusion III EURCAD. If I have to trade a 100K lot from the get go, this system has too high a loss potential for my account size. If I could choose the number of lots, it would make more sense. Also, it would be good to know in the system description, if a system enters all lots simultaneously, like the one above, or if it 'averages in' with additional positions. Last, taking into consideration the amount of offered systems and the resulting number of combinations, 30 days will never be enough to evaluate the feasibility of FSS.
Peter
Thank you for your comment Peter. We are looking into the ability to have the user cap the max number of trades. In the meantime, you'll have to take the risk as it is given. So a provider offering 10 max positions is like taking on a 100k position. Generally, speaking, by demoing the signal provider you can get a feel for how they enter into the positions. Other than that and the possible intratrade drawdowns, the actual closed trade details are provided. So there is a lot of information provided to help in the decision.

If you feel you need several months to demo a signal provider, that tells me you are not comfortable with them because of the limited information we have (or because they are a newer system). I agree with you on that point which is why I like to recommend providers that have at least 12 months of history. That way, we get a better sense of the risk involved with the provider and how they have handled changing market conditions.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.

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Old 11-04-2009, 04:49 AM
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I just checked it and see that its there. When you initially open the PERFORMANCE tab, press the OPEN MORE OPTIONS button right below the Max DD drop down box.
I see your checking didn´t go far.

Yes, you open 'more options'. Then, when you click 'system', the dropdown shows only 'all'. No system names.

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Performance section still not good

Still no system selection possible, for performance analysis!

This, in the beginning of the month, is not acceptable.
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I see your checking didn´t go far.

Yes, you open 'more options'. Then, when you click 'system', the dropdown shows only 'all'. No system names.
It was a demo account I checked yesterday and it worked fine. I just checked the LIVE account and I can see what you experiencing. I'll make a note to Tradency. Until its corrected, you should be able to see the field in the demos.
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It was a demo account I checked yesterday and it worked fine. I just checked the LIVE account and I can see what you experiencing. I'll make a note to Tradency. Until its corrected, you should be able to see the field in the demos.
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Smile Who sends the signals??

HI! Im new to FSS and I would like to know how the systems were collected and put together. How is a system evaluated before it is included in the collections?

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