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FSS demo and beginner questions
Jeremy,
couple of questions.
1) within the demo account, are you able to delete the 4 systems pre chosen and add the ones that you would like to trade? or can you add other systems to see how they trade?
2) the spread on the various currency pairs changes. does the hisorical performance incorporate the exact price that the system has bought the currency pair on the buy/spread as the time? ie. does the historical performance of AAABBB system exactly represent how the system has performed on a person's live account
3) do all the systems always operate at all time? or do they have start/stop triggers. so if a system was on and i chose it, could an indicator signal the system to stop working (as it does not perform in the now current market conditions) while i have it as active on the account?
4) i live in australia. can i open an FSS account as an australian company? and does it need to be denominated in USD?
thanks for taking the time to answer my questions Jeremy
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08-17-2009, 07:53 PM
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Well Eventhough there are 4 systems selected its not sure that those systems place the trade regularly,which leaves us with no idea what is happening on our account.
The same applies for Live accounts as well, even If we have some systems selected based on their performance, what is the guarantee that these systems will place trades regularly and within the margin available and not eradicate our accounts?
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As with any investment into FX, there are no guarantees except that you will experience losses in your account.
The way the FSS is set up, if the signal providers don't place any trades, then you don't pay any commissions. Therefore, you are not out anything if the signal providers are not sending you any trades. Personally, I would not want a signal provider that guarantees a certain number of trades because they would simply run up my costs through spreads and commissions.
The signal providers have no idea what your margin levels are. Therefore, it is up to you (the client) to determine the trade size that the signal provider is going to send to your account.
There are times when the market is not going to produce many GOOD trading opportunities. This usually occurs during trend changes. One could argue that a trend change is in the works right now on the USD. Sometimes the best trade is not taking the trade...
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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08-17-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by n5032245
Jeremy,
couple of questions.
1) within the demo account, are you able to delete the 4 systems pre chosen and add the ones that you would like to trade? or can you add other systems to see how they trade?
2) the spread on the various currency pairs changes. does the hisorical performance incorporate the exact price that the system has bought the currency pair on the buy/spread as the time? ie. does the historical performance of AAABBB system exactly represent how the system has performed on a person's live account
3) do all the systems always operate at all time? or do they have start/stop triggers. so if a system was on and i chose it, could an indicator signal the system to stop working (as it does not perform in the now current market conditions) while i have it as active on the account?
4) i live in australia. can i open an FSS account as an australian company? and does it need to be denominated in USD?
thanks for taking the time to answer my questions Jeremy
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No problem.
1) Yes, you are able to delete the systems and add your own...it is completely up to you. Those 4 systems were suggestions to help you get started but feel free to delete and modify.
2) The spreads are variable in the FSS account. The information you see in the Trade Details section are based on prices at the moment signals are sent to FXCM so they do incorporate the spread. The actual prices executed into a clients account could be slightly different depending upon the liquidity of the market at that time. A clients actual performance could be different that what you see. For example, let's assume a system opened a trade on June 1 and closed it on June 5. Then, let's also assume you opened a new FSS account and added the system on June 2. Obviously, your results would not include this trade because the trade was already opened when you added the system.
3) The systems could theoretically be looking for trades 24 hours per day. If you don't want the system to look for trades for you, then you would need to delete it from the portfolio.
4) We are working to have FSS available to Australian residents and expect to have it made available soon. Send me a private message with your name, email address, and phone number and we can add you to our list to contact when it is available.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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09-23-2009, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeremy Wagner
The current demo portfolio consists of 4 systems:
*DBSwing EURUSD
*PipRancher EURJPY
*PipSniper USDJPY
*BreakoutMaster AUDJPY
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Hello, I'll start by saying I may find it hard to express myself here, mainly because english is not my native language. Now that that's out of the way...
Funny enough, when I tried to find what I called 'prudent' systems, my list had all but one of those systems. My selection had 5 and only PipRancher wasn't there. IntelliForex-Swing USDCHF entered my list mainly because it's on a Top Portfolio Package.
I kind of lost my faith in these systems when I noticed their profits seemed to have pretty much stopped since January.
I then started using newer systems - around 3 to 6 months old - that seemed to consistently be making profits on current market conditions. Like HidalgoFx, EURUSD and AUDUSD.
What is your view on this? Thank you!
P.S.: Also, I'd like to know If it is or when will it be possible to open a Euro denominated account (but don't know where to post this question).
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09-23-2009, 07:43 PM
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Market Conditions Approach
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Originally Posted by Alec
Hello, I'll start by saying I may find it hard to express myself here, mainly because english is not my native language. Now that that's out of the way...
Funny enough, when I tried to find what I called 'prudent' systems, my list had all but one of those systems. My selection had 5 and only PipRancher wasn't there. IntelliForex-Swing USDCHF entered my list mainly because it's on a Top Portfolio Package.
I kind of lost my faith in these systems when I noticed their profits seemed to have pretty much stopped since January.
I then started using newer systems - around 3 to 6 months old - that seemed to consistently be making profits on current market conditions. Like HidalgoFx, EURUSD and AUDUSD.
What is your view on this? Thank you!
P.S.: Also, I'd like to know If it is or when will it be possible to open a Euro denominated account (but don't know where to post this question).
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Hi Alec...I think your english is good.
My analysis is showing the market conditions changed from a trend to a choppy range sometime in the first half of 2009. Many systems trade trends so a trend follower is going to experience drawdowns when the conditions change to something other than a trend.
I look at several types of automated systems (not a part of the FSS) and some are showing drawdowns that began in June while others are showing as early as January. On the flip side, strategies that would perform well in a choppy range began to perk up in January 2009.
What does this mean? This means, in my opinion, that market conditions of the past 3-6 months are not the favored trending condition for the strategies listed above.
I do believe the signal providers noted above will begin to perk up soon. Since around Sept 8-10, the automated strategies I developed that like trending environments began to show a little life. One thing you can do to investigate this further is to compare the actual trade results of the above named systems before Sept 8-10 and compare that to after that point. These past 2 weeks doesn't constitute a trend, but it does offer a clue of a possible changing condition to the market.
If the conditions of the market are indeed changing, then the newer systems you mention may begin to experience drawdowns. I don't know for sure if they will as that is the risk you run with a newer system. Perhaps keep an eye on both sets of systems and be nimble to change if need be.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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10-02-2009, 05:00 AM
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Building Your Portfolio September Webinar
On September 25 I got a mail invitation for a Live Interactive Webinar on Building Your Portfolio. It was (unfortunately) spammed by my mail filter (it wont happen again).
The email has a "View Recording" link but I cant find the said recording. I could use some help on that.
Thank you and have good day.
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10-04-2009, 06:46 PM
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Link to webinar recordings
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Originally Posted by Alec
On September 25 I got a mail invitation for a Live Interactive Webinar on Building Your Portfolio. It was (unfortunately) spammed by my mail filter (it wont happen again).
The email has a "View Recording" link but I cant find the said recording. I could use some help on that.
Thank you and have good day.
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Hi Alec.
Here is a link to the recordings of those webinars. I will be doing 2 live webinars on the FSS this Wednesday at 3pm and 9pm ET (New York time). I hope to see you there.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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10-05-2009, 03:42 AM
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Webinar recordings
Thank you for answering... on a Sunday
There seems to be a problem. The pages show:
And I hope I'll be there too, next Wednesday.
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10-05-2009, 04:59 PM
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Thank you for answering... on a Sunday
There seems to be a problem. The pages show:
Attachment 38414
And I hope I'll be there too, next Wednesday.
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Great! I look forward to seeing you in the webinar room.
I clicked on several of the video recordings and they were working fine. Perhaps try another recording with the link provided...if that still doesn't work then let me know the date, time, and name of webinar recording you tried to view.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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11-11-2009, 11:59 AM
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Hi
well i have one question
will you put your monwy in system selectors? unless you already do, of course.
and if so, what ss you would or are already using ?
brgds,
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11-16-2009, 06:34 PM
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Hi
well i have one question
will you put your monwy in system selectors? unless you already do, of course.
and if so, what ss you would or are already using ?
brgds,
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Hi DjMace...
Yes, I have and what I choose may or may not be right for you. The goal of these threads are to provide you with a perspective of how to perform your own analysis so you can make your own decisions.
First of all, you want to ask yourself how much risk based capital you have to trade with. If the number is fairly small (<$10,000), then you will be somewhat limited in the providers available to still maintain that STAYING POWER.
There are several providers that have constantly come up in various filters.
Below are some of those providers included at the beginning of this thread. There are other providers recently reviewed the in Systems Review by Course Instructors. Also, clients have provided some systems they are checking out as well.
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*Past performance posted by Signal and Systems Providers (“Providers”), is not necessarily indicative of future results. No representation is made that any account is likely to achieve profits or losses similar to those shown. In fact, there are frequently sharp differences between hypothetical performance results and the actual results subsequently achieved by any particularly trading program. The composite monthly results are primarily hypothetical results of the master demo and its representation of the Providers, though performance results displayed may represent a combination of live and hypothetical results and are not exclusive to either. There are numerous other factors related to markets in general or to the implementation of any specific trading program that cannot be fully accounted for in the preparation of hypothetical performance results and all of which can adversely affect actual trading results. In the event that specific trades were simultaneously executed in hypothetical and live, real-time trading, the lesser of the two results will be displayed. There is no guarantee that one applying these methodologies would have the same results as the hypothetically posted. Since trading successfully depends on many elements including but not limited to a trading methodology and a trader's own psychology, the web site does not make any representation whatsoever that the above mentioned trading systems might be or are suitable or that they would be profitable for you. Please realize the risk with any investment and consult investment professionals before proceeding. The trading systems herein described have been developed for sophisticated traders who fully understand the nature and the scope of the risks that are associated with trading. Should you decide to trade any or all of these systems' signals, it is your decision.
Links to third-party sites are provided for your convenience and for informational purposes only. Forex Capital Markets LLC bears no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or any other matter related to the external site or for that of subsequent links, and accepts no liability whatsoever for any loss or damage arising from the use of this or any other content. Such sites are not within our control and may not follow the same privacy, security, or accessibility standards as ours. Please read the linked websites' terms and conditions.
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